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David Smith MBE: Embracing Presence, Redefining Identity, and Finding Freedom Beyond Societal Labels

Dr Ariella (Ariel) Rosita King Season 2025 Episode 12

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What happens when you stop defining yourself by societal labels and start embracing the beauty of just being? 

Join us for an enlightening conversation with David Smith MBE, who shares his personal evolution from identifying solely as an athlete to finding freedom in presence. David opens up about his journey through paralysis, shifting his focus from achievements to the impermanence of life, and how these experiences taught him to live as a human being rather than a human doing. Through his story, we explore the liberation that comes from releasing rigid identities and appreciating life's transient beauty.

Our discussion takes a poignant turn as we examine the disconnect between personal fulfillment and societal expectations. We share the touching story of a man who lost his passion for fishing amidst the relentless pursuit of material success, highlighting how modern life's pace can lead to depression and a lack of deeper purpose. Reflecting on personal adversities, such as illness, we consider the lessons learned through suffering and the potential for post-traumatic growth. We question how we might reclaim meaning and happiness against the backdrop of technological advancement and societal pressures.

The episode wraps up by exploring the importance of human connection and finding balance. Personal anecdotes about village life warmth and unexpected urban encounters underscore the significance of simple gestures of humanity. We contemplate the wisdom of being present and self-aware, drawing inspiration from Buddhist philosophies and timeless questions about our roles in the world. With insights on balance and moderation, we encourage listeners to "be where your feet are," prioritizing meaningful interactions and embracing life's finite nature.

Music, lyrics, guitar and singing by Dr Ariel Rosita King

Teach me to live one day at a time
with courage love and a sense of pride.
Giving me the ability to love and accept myself
so I can go and give it to someone else.
Teach me to live one day at a time.....


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Dr Ariel King:

Teach me to live one day at a time, with courage, love and a sense of pride Giving me the ability to love and accept myself so I can go and give it to someone else.

Dr Ariel King:

Welcome to another podcast of the Business of Life. Today we have with us a very special friend, Mr David Smith MBE. Welcome.

David Smith, MBE:

Dr Ariel, thank you so much. It's been long overdue, this conversation, so I'm very excited and I already feel the energy and the frequencies that we're totally aligned. So I know it's going to be a great conversation and I'm truly blessed to uh to be sat with you today oh, you're so kind.

Dr Ariel King:

Thank you so much. I'm so looking forward to this day. Also, could you please tell um our audience a bit about yourself and what you do professionally, and then we're just going to go into life yeah, I all it's evolved over the years.

David Smith, MBE:

I think years ago I would have defined myself as an athlete. I've been a professional sportsman my whole life. I've competed in numerous sports for for my country, being a world champion, a gold medalist at the the games, and now I work professionally as a Nike ambassador. But uh, recently I've sort of taken under a lot of reading around Buddhism and I now purely identify as just I am. I'm just a human being and whatever moment I'm in, I try to be fully present and experience the moment as it is, just as a human, and I try not to identify to any sort of fixed identity. And I found it very free and I found it's a very beautiful place to be and I'm happy to have found sort of, I guess, that enlightenment. I'm still a work in progress, but I've managed to detach from any sort of fixed. I've managed to detach from any sort of fixed profession that I had, just to be fully present with whatever I'm doing in the moment.

Dr Ariel King:

Isn't that great to be able to know that you're more than what you do, and what you do is only a part of who you are.

David Smith, MBE:

For that time, like many of us, that's really amazing and I think it's the root of a lot of suffering, right? I think a lot of people suffer because we're brought up in a society that's priming us rather than us priming ourselves, and we fall into the categories of what we do, who we are, and it becomes important to form our tribe and that early model of social psychology where it sort of puts you in a box and says this is who you are and this is how you're going to live your life. And, and I think that's why I realized that in 2016, I was paralyzed from the neck down on one side due to a cancer and a surgery going wrong, and that in the last eight years, I realized that I always identified as an athlete. And then, what are the values that drive an athlete? Usually, if you look at the Olympics, it's sitius, atius, fortius, faster, higher, stronger.

David Smith, MBE:

And the more I tried to attach that identity, the more I suffered. And I realized that, actually, if I can just let go of that identity and in Buddhism they call it anatta that that I will be free of the suffering of wanting more and desiring more from this identity. And it was such a beautiful moment when I first experienced that and it was it made conversations difficult? Because the usual conversation, when you meet someone, they want to know what you do instantly to put you in the box. And I say to people well, I just am.

Dr Ariel King:

I'm sure that's quite confusing for people. You are what?

David Smith, MBE:

Yeah, well, I'm just here.

Dr Ariel King:

I love this idea. I love this idea of and I agree although I didn't get to it, to the same place with Buddhism that what we do is not necessarily who we are, it's what we do. And then when we are pushed and molded from a very early age to identify with what we do, even though we came into the world doing nothing except being birthed, that was enough yeah, that was enough, then it does make it difficult because all of a sudden, what we do is who we are, but we always change.

Dr Ariel King:

I mean, the world is changing. Most people do not stay in their professions for um any more than what did they say four to five years now? So we're always changing.

David Smith, MBE:

And I think that's the beauty of impermanence. I love the word impermanence, the cancer I have. I'm constantly having conversations around my mortality and death and I used to meditate on the memento mori to sort of know that everything we will all die and from the minute we're born we're almost given a terminal diagnosis as anyway that we will die. But I found it quite heavy. And then I was introduced to the word impermanence and I thought that's a beautiful word and it's so poetic because everything we do in every second is impermanent the conversation'smanent, the weather, the change and the way nature moves. Impermanence is all around us constantly.

David Smith, MBE:

But most people are human doings rather than human beings and they're human doings because they're attached to this identity of what they do and they measure their success and what they do and the returns they get from their job or their hobbies or whatever they do and everything's measured.

David Smith, MBE:

And in this crazy world and people just miss the beauty of impermanence and I found when I was paralyzed that I really had to learn to just be, because I couldn't do anymore, so I had to just be and then be able to sit in my body, sit with my mind, and I started to notice the real beauty in the most simplest things, like a bird landing on a tree and then flying off, and I thought, wow, that is just, that's the most amazing thing I've seen all day and for most of my life I hadn't been aware of that, that those things happening, because I was such in human doing mode, attached to this identity, measuring my success on the achievements externally from what I was attached to, and then I just woke up, probably last year, metaphorically and physically, to go, wow, actually I'm going to measure my success on if I'm living by my values, what are my values and what are my intentions? Each day and for me, I'm a good person, I say every day I leave the house my only intention is to make someone smile and since I've sort of come to this philosophy, I've found such calm and peace in my life and also around me that makes all the difference, does it?

Dr Ariel King:

can I ask um, outside of you, what has been some of the reactions to you not doing anymore, but just being and allowing yourself to experience life as it comes?

David Smith, MBE:

it confuses people. If you meet, if you meet the person who's on that sort of frequency, they totally get it. And then we enter this beautiful conversation, like we did before recording today, and and you have this, just this, such this, this special moment, which is so fragile, and because both people understand the impermanence of the moment, it's just this beautiful energy exchange which I love. And I don't get that as often as I would love. Usually the relationships and discussions are very transactional and it shifts my energy. I feel it shifting my energy massively.

David Smith, MBE:

And then a lot of people will say, yeah, but you're still going to go and do a challenge, you're still going to go and cycle over the Alps or climb a mountain. And I was like, no, I'm actually just really happy just being and learning and reading. And yeah, I'll still go skiing and I'll still go and do some sports, but I'm just doing them because I enjoy them, that it's not for anything else. And some of these people really struggle with that. They're like, yeah, but there must be something you must and and if anyone who, anyone who watches sports, will know that you, you can just achieve your lifelong dream. And then you have a microphone put in your face and the first question the reporter will ask is what's next?

Dr Ariel King:

that's so true how will you define yourself next? What's next? How will you define yourself for us next? What will you do for us think of you, for us to like you, for us to accept you? I mean, isn't that interesting that we have to spend a lot of time and energy doing so? People quote, unquote accept us, and what's amazing is that they don't even see us they don't see us, they don't see you, they don't.

David Smith, MBE:

And I think we live in, because we live in a world now, a digital world that moves so fast is that they see us less and it's literally just this fleeting moment. And because I think human beings inherently struggle to be present, I have a little philosophy where I say be where your feet are when, because that's the only place you can be. But ultimately our mind and our feet are so detached and and even though literally they're the furthest apart on our body, but they're light years away from each other, because usually our feet are in the moment, but our minds are either thinking to the future, thinking to the past, and very rarely do we actually get to enjoy the moment and I love that and actually you know when I, when I hear you talk about the head, you know what we're thinking about in the feet, where we are.

Dr Ariel King:

I also think about the heart, what is important to us. So there are times we're thinking about things that have nothing to do with where our heart is and nothing to do with where our feet are.

David Smith, MBE:

So I really I love the representation like the heart is almost the meeting ground for your feet and your mind and that's your soul and I love that. And I think that in society that's become detached. We've become detached from our soul, our heart, what we really love to do and our passions. And I spoke to a gentleman not long ago and I said you know what lights your soul alive? And he's like no one's ever asked me that. I'm just asked have you done the work? Where's the deadlines, where's the work? And he said no one's ever asked me that question. He says I don't really know and he said actually it's probably fishing.

Dr Ariel King:

And I said when was the last time you fished? And he said 15 years ago. Wow, that's sad, that's so sad. That just gave me a big boom of sadness, because that tells me that this man has spent his time and energy doing what he thinks will give him acceptance and love and whatever he needs, and he's put on the in the back, he's pushed back so far, not a year, not two years, not five years, not 10, 15 years. What he loves, yeah, what he loves.

Dr Ariel King:

Literally denying himself so he can do so. Other people will accept him. For the moment. Yes, Because it's all changing and fleeting right, and for many people it's what changing and fleeting right? And for many people it's what have you done for me lately?

David Smith, MBE:

yeah, what have you done for me? What have you done for me? And it really made me reflect a lot on on society, on human beings and the demand of human beings and how it is all. Go, go, go and you're measured in success with where you live, your house, you have, the car you drive, the suit you wear and everyone's constantly judging and you know it's like, wow, how have we got here and what does the future look like and is it salvageable?

David Smith, MBE:

I'm very optimistic and someone with hope and I'd like to always think well, there is. You know, if I go out and I smile and I have a nice introduction with somebody, then they will do the same and that energy is very, very powerful and I always try to live with a deep, deep sense of gratitude. Not that I don't keep a gratitude journal. I try and really live with gratitude in my heart, in my soul, so it meets my mind and my feet and it's always a constant reminder. But then when I step outside and look around, everyone is in go do mode. I got to get to my next destination as fast as possible and and I try to sometimes slow people down and they're like I don't have time to slow down.

Dr Ariel King:

Right, right, I don't have time. How are you Fine? Good, ok, bye.

David Smith, MBE:

And one day I thought to myself you need to make time to slow down, if not your body will become sick. You will become sick and then you will be forced to slow down. And you know, I've spent 14 years on neurological wards and usually my neighbor is a CEO under the age of 50.

Dr Ariel King:

Wow.

David Smith, MBE:

That's telling who's had a stroke because they've survived on five hours sleep a night. They're not looking after their physiology, they're very much in human doing mode and they're measuring their success and their self-worth to the identity they've attached to themselves as company CEO.

Dr Ariel King:

So this comes with an image and uh, and all the things you have to do. What do you think about? Um, all the the depression that's around, because I mean even some of the biggest cities, they I was just reading something last week. And, um, the depression that's around, because I mean even some of the biggest cities, they I was just reading something last week. And in some of our major countries I mean pretty much in various parts of the world, in major cities, where we have this great development of, of, of jobs and how we're related to our jobs, there's a large number of depressed people and even larger number of those who are on medications as a result of depression. What's your thoughts on that?

David Smith, MBE:

yeah, I think this is such a great topic, right? I think so. I always said that cancer was the harshest teacher in my life, but it was also the best teacher, and I think sometimes to make a shift, you need almost it needs to be accompanied by trauma. Any sort of real big adversity makes you step back, have a helicopter sort of view of your life and, okay, what's really important in my life and what really matters, and where do I get my meaning, my purpose, my passions? I guess my ikigaya in Japanese philosophy, what is my ikigaya in japanese philosophy, whereas what is my ikigaya? And then I think that we've moved so far away from that because society tells us we need this car, we, I think if you step out, from the minute you open your eyes in the morning to the minute you close your eyes, we are bombarded by advertisement.

David Smith, MBE:

It's everywhere and most of it is in the and we're not even aware of it, but it influences our decisions. It influences our sense of self, our self belief, our self efficacy, our self confidence, and our groups that we're surrounded by have a similar influence to us. And I think the more that we've developed as a planet, that's the price we've paid for it. So where cancer's taught me the greatest thing, I really had to suffer. So I had to go through extreme suffering to learn and grow. So cancer's, the paradox of cancer, and paralysis has been the harshest thing that's ever happened to me. But out of that I've actually come out of it with, I guess, post-traumatic growth, and I've learned and I've grown as a person. And I think that's what's happening in society, the price we've paid that we have grown. Technologically everything's easier. We've lost maybe a lot of purpose in our day and now everything's just easier. We have phones, we have computers, we have technology. We can press buttons and have things delivered, so we have much more time in our hands just to to think. And then we also socially compare.

David Smith, MBE:

And I remember going to Burundi and into the right on the border of the Congo and I've never. These people were so, so happy. They had no phones they had, but everything in their day had purpose and the village had community. So I, we were. They were all quantumly entangled. I knew I needed you to help me plant my pineapples. And then if we grow the pineapple, then I need my friend across the road to be able to cut it up and juice it. And there was purpose to every moment. And I've seen this also in Pakistan last year that the whole purpose of the village was to prepare for winter. So there was almost. People didn't really have time to be depressed because their day had purpose and they also didn't have social comparison.

David Smith, MBE:

And I think one of the prices we've paid for the society we live in now, the way we've grown humanity, is that this is a an off shot of it. That people turn on their phones, they look at instagram and think, wow, I wish I had that life, but I've only seen a snippet of it. And then they're looking at you, step outside your house. You're told well, there's this new car, there's the jacket, there's all of this stuff just is putting pressure on people. Then they work harder, they try to be more human, do and get the promotions and they just drive, drive, drive constantly and they never really have time just to sit and just be, and I think that people say, well, that's lazy, or just to sit and be, but it's.

David Smith, MBE:

It's very, very important to be able just to sit and be with your thoughts and your feelings and your emotions, but also to understand that more doesn't necessarily make me happy and, and I always say to people, happiness is an emotion, it comes and goes, contentment is a state and rather than trying to become happy, we should be trying to become content and and just content with our lot. I don't want more. I I don't need 20 bedrooms because I can only sleep in one bed, and you know, and I'm a great lover of of bob marley's music and and I think that I actually think the world needs bob marley right now.

Dr Ariel King:

I love that. One love, one heart. I love it, I love it. You know, I think there's something there to that and it's amazing that we are so connected on technology but also we seem to be so disconnected from each other. And even young people they say the more they use technology to communicate with each other, the higher the rates of depression and isolation are.

Dr Ariel King:

And then, when you're talking about Burundi and Pakistan and some of these other places you've been, what strikes me is the fact that they are working together not all the time. They have their own families, they have themselves, they have their own goals, but they're working together for a goal. And I'm wondering if maybe some of our loneliness and some of our depression and some of the reasons why we're not sure why we're here, is because we've disconnected from each other through technology and we think that to be loved, to have a better life, is not to share together but to buy more things. And I'm wondering is maybe the problem is, is that we forgot how to find that contentment with each other in groups, rather than buying?

David Smith, MBE:

it's what it's why I love children. I've just recently come back from cambodia and I was watching the children just play. We visited a local school. The kids were no older than 10 and everyone was just playing, and I love this.

David Smith, MBE:

I think we lose play as we grow older because we're told to do all these things and you have to be responding. Everyone's so serious and I often joke with people. You know, I I'm like it's not brain surgery, no one's died. We kind of need to lighten up a little bit and just have some fun. And um, it's all got a bit too serious. And uh, I see these kids playing and no one's like comparing.

David Smith, MBE:

There was not what do you do. There was no transactional relationship, it was just play and it was beautiful. There was lots of creativity and and I remember speaking to one of my friends when we were there and he said you know, I know we're here to do good, but he says I don't want them to change because I think he's. You know, I know we're here to do good, but he says I don't want them to change Because I think he's like you know, we've come over here with our values and this is how you've got to live. And actually these people were way, way more happier than us. And is the answer flat screen televisions, digital mobile phones, all of this stuff? I don't. I don't know if that's really the answer, and OK it's. It's created a very comfortable life. We're going to be better at diagnosing cancer, better at treating illnesses, we're going to live longer, but have we lost the core meaning of what it is just to be human?

Dr Ariel King:

What a great question and I love that question and it really shows that to be comfortable is nice, to have things are nice in order to make life better. But I always say you love people and you use things rather than using people and loving things. So I mean, that's a good question. What is your thought on humanity? Have we lost our humanity? What is your?

David Smith, MBE:

thought on humanity. Have we lost our humanity? I think we've strayed off what it is to be human. I'd like to think we've not lost it. I'd like to think that it's worth fighting for. I think that as a civilization, we probably are a little bit lost, especially in the West. I think that it's right now, if you turn on, often, think that your, your nutrition is not just what you eat, it's what you consume, and the the danger of echo chambers and this constant narrative of the news that it's negative and what we're fed is is.

David Smith, MBE:

Yeah, it can be a pretty dark place to go and I look around, especially in in london, and I, just again, I, as a disabled person, everyone is, you know, people push me out the way but also, as a disabled person, I've seen the beauty in humanity. I've seen the beauty in people trying to help me and assist me, and so I think it's you know, we've not lost it. It's very much there. But if we disconnect more from each other and connect more to technology, then I think we're at the danger. I definitely think if we go through the revolutions the industrial revolution, different revolution we're going through a tech revolution and we're now going into an AI revolution.

David Smith, MBE:

If we let it go too far and we become too disconnected, I feel that we could go into dangerous territory. But I think at the moment we're right on the cusp of potentially losing that connection. And that's where I've seen in Cambodia there was these beautiful connections, and I see it when I go to Jamaica there's these beautiful connections but then when I come back, they're lacking because people. I think people are struggling back. They're lacking because people. I think people are struggling. I do.

David Smith, MBE:

I generally do think that people struggle to choose between heating their homes and and food and I think that's a big, big part of I also think the weather plays a big part of it that vitamin d deficiency. The sad syndrome is definitely. This stuff is definitely real. But I think one of the best ingredients to that to help it is connection with your tribe, with human people, people checking on people. Are you okay? And I think you know I. Yeah, I don't know where we're going to go, but I think that we're at a very key point in our evolution that we have to really fight to hold on to human connection.

Dr Ariel King:

Yeah, I think I really agree with you with that. And you know what is humanity? And I guess humanity for me is that human connection of I am a person, I am human, fully human, which means that I can be helpful and I can also be harmful. I can be here or I can ignore the fact that you exist. And humanity is not just all the good, but the fullness of being a human being.

Dr Ariel King:

But in the fullness of being a human being, it also means our connections, because our connections, whether it's to family or a group that we do things with and one or two close friends, is really important for our lives, and I think that humanity is making time, as you said, and space for those connections and realizing that they are part of our nutrition. It's just as important as the sun, it's just as important as water, it's just as important as food, and without that we are lacking and we are starving. And perhaps that's why we have loneliness and that's why we have people who want to commit suicide, and that's why we have people using technology and buying things in order to figure out how to feel better, not knowing and understanding that feeling better is connections with other people it's almost, I guess, that the word dopamine is thrown around a lot right now.

David Smith, MBE:

It seems to be the buzzword, but people, I guess, are getting these dopamine hits from social media rather than going to the local coffee shop. I remember growing up as a child I would leave the house. I knew the postman and he'd be like good morning, dav, david. I'd be like good morning, and then I'd see someone else. I'd be like morning morning. Then you would stop and have a little interlude with somebody and then you'd go to the local coffee shop and the coffee shop would know you and just from leaving your house to the coffee shop you might have had five to 10 beautiful little snippets of just a good morning.

David Smith, MBE:

I can leave the house now in London and I grew up in a village with a couple hundred people. I can leave the house in London with millions of people and no one will speak to me all day and I walk around with a big smile on my face and I'm like hello, hello, and, and I'm thinking even my neighbor doesn't know who I am. And I'm thinking this is crazy, because if you'd who I am, and I'm thinking this is crazy Because if you'd gone back to the 1960s, 1970s, the whole street would have known each other and I'm thinking what's happened? Why is it? I know people are all busy, but no one's busy to the point where they don't just say hello and good morning and then someone says to me, yeah, but people may be struggling. You don't just say hello and good morning and then someone says to me, yeah, but people may be struggling, you don't know. And I said, yeah, but we're all struggling. In some instances I'm struggling, but I make a point of trying to say hello.

Dr Ariel King:

But humanity is courtesy. I mean, you know, Courtesy yeah, that's an important value.

Dr Ariel King:

It's extremely important because it reminds you of who you are as a human being. And I understand what you're saying because, uh, there was a point that I lived in london, I'll just say briefly and, um, I had a business card. I was going to the london school of high, near tropical medicine, but I made it. I next to me were uh, older people, uh, in three floors and I made it a point to find some mugs that they might like. You know that that were for older people, nothing offensive my my business card in and I wrote on the other side you know, this is who I am, this is my name and I live here. I just moved in. If I can help in any way, please call me. And that happened.

Dr Ariel King:

You got to know my neighbors and, as a result of that, I was able to get to know Logic Rex Caton, who was the first person literally in the world to electrify the guitar Wow, amazing. And he was my neighbor, so right in London, even if he didn't electrify the guitar. Just being open and receptive and saying that hello makes it different. So I want to thank you for saying hello and letting people see that there's another way. Okay, you're struggling, we all do. That's a part of life. I mean, even when we gave birth, we struggled to get out, so okay.

David Smith, MBE:

You do struggle.

Dr Ariel King:

We do have fun. This is part of life, but it doesn't mean you can't be courteous and you can't um fulfill being human, having humanity, which is the best part of who we are.

David Smith, MBE:

I, you know it's, it's super, it's, it's such an interesting, it's such an interesting philosophy, and I often see it when I go into the cancer wards that sometimes people are more happier in the hospital than they are on the street. And I think and it goes back to that, well, this big adversity has come into my life and it's all. It's almost made me realize what's important to me, what really matters, and I'm thinking why does it? Does it take that to, to make that shift? And I think, unfortunately it does. I generally believe that humans need a little bit of a shove to be able to go. Whoa. Actually, I need to wake up to what's really important, and time is something that I've attached more to, I think, because I've had so many conversations with doctors around your time and I think when you're a kid, you just feel like you're going to live forever and even sometimes, as an adult, you think you've got just forever and I think, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, I'll do it tomorrow, I'll do it tomorrow.

David Smith, MBE:

I'll start this, you know, tomorrow, I'll call them next week. And and I said to a young kid recently I said you know 4,000 weeks. And he said you mean? I said that's what we'll get, if you're lucky, from the minute you take that first breath of coming into this life on an inhale and leaving on an exhale. Your exhale, if you're lucky, will be 4,000 weeks later, if you live to your 80s. I said that's if you're lucky. That's amazing. And he was like, wow, and there are only 4,000 weeks. I was like, yeah, and you've already used up a bunch of those weeks.

David Smith, MBE:

You'll also sleep for about 20 years of your life and then you'll spend another 5-6 years just scrolling and then you'll spend a bunch of years arguing about pointless stuff. So when you really get down to it, you're only getting a few years of. So when you really get down to it, you're only getting a few years of the stuff you really love. So I said to him you know you have 18,400 seconds a day. Make sure you're showing up to them with who you want to be. And that doesn't mean you need to be jumping off cliffs and achieving climbing Everest every week, right. It's also been able to sit in the most simplest moment and take beauty and joy from just being, and I think that's where we can learn so much from the Buddhist philosophies around just not wanting more all the time. More of this, more of that, I think, more is. I often think of it like chocolate biscuits you eat one, it's really nice. You eat two, you feel great. You eat three, you feel amazing. You eat the whole box, you feel sick.

Dr Ariel King:

I love it. I really love it. There's so much to think about. I'd like to invite you to come on again. Our 30 minutes has gone by too quickly.

David Smith, MBE:

Yes.

Dr Ariel King:

I want to thank you, my friend, for being on. I've learned so much from you and your last. What you've just said has really stuck with me, so thank you for that. I'm going to remember how many weeks I have in life and what to do with it. So thank you for that. I'm going to remember that how many weeks I have in life and what to do with it so thank you for that.

David Smith, MBE:

Thank you.

Dr Ariel King:

Is there anything else you'd like to say to our audience before we stop?

David Smith, MBE:

Be where your feet are.

Dr Ariel King:

Thank you, I love that. So, once again, thank you for joining us for the Business of Life. And remember if I'm not for myself, who will be for me? If I am only for myself, who will be for me? If I am only for myself, what am I? If not now, then when? That's by Hillel and I say if not me, then who? Thank you.